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More on sire lists and the Scat Daddy vs Hard Spun issue

For more on the controversial sire lists published annually in US publications, see below.

In yesterday’s issue of Thoroughbred Times TODAY, I wrote the following column calling for “official” sire lists from The Jockey Club. Click here to read it. The Blood-Horse editor, Eric Mitchell, addressed the same issue yesterday from the vantage point of his publication’s decision to exclude Northern Hemisphere earnings from Japan and Hong Kong in its sire lists. Click here to read Eric’s piece.

Comments on Twitter yesterday included the following:

Su-Ann Khaw, Australian owner and breeder: “very surprised there isn’t an ‘official’ sire list in US, was unaware of it till I read your piece.”

Ed DeRosa, director of marketing at Brisnet.com and formerly with Thoroughbred Times: “As far as I’m concerned, @TTimes is the official list. All earnings should count.” And, “I’d rather have a list that uses North America only than one that picks and chooses countries.”

Rachel Levine, horse racing fan: “Sheesh even in the general list it’s too lose to call!”

Alistair Brown, South African-based international bloodstock broker and consultant: “re the sires lists … it is a crazy situation – but symptomatic of the whole ‘global village’ effect!”

Frances J. Karon, editor of North American Trainer magazine and at Four Star Sales: ” US is the only country that has many young racing stock exported.”

John Mulholland, son of John and Martha of Kentucky nursery Mulholland Springs: “then have a domestic and global earnings list- not complicated.”

Ray Paulick, of Paulick Report: ” I always took ‘more the merrier’ route on sire lists. But ‘official’ list makes sense.” And, “Global list excluding Jpn/HK like domestic list w/out NY VLT $$$.”

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7 thoughts on “More on sire lists and the Scat Daddy vs Hard Spun issue

  1. fmitchell07 says:

    Spot on, Sid. The need for a definitive list pertains to more than advertorial good cheer. There is a point to keeping accurate records and statistics that profits the breed, and breeders, both today and in the future as we look back at trends and shifts of influence in breeding and bloodlines.

    Frank

  2. Ann Maree says:

    From what I have read — which is not much and I’m certainly no old-timer with any credentials other than loving the sport — BloodHorse just shot themselves in the foot big time, and it really makes them look silly in the eyes of most of the industry. It’s beginning to look like one of those “What were they thinking?” moments!

  3. This is just one more thing that makes the average racing fan look at racing with a skeptical eye. Try explaining to a casual fan that The Delta Downs Jackpot which has a purse of one million I believe- wasn’t even a black-type race for years.

  4. Eric Mitchell says:

    Ann Maree, I would like to follow up on your comment regarding the indexes in the back of The Blood-Horse’s 2012 Stallion Register. All the information that was available in the Sire of Sires index is available online at http://www.stallionregister.com, which then provides immediate access to updated information. The information can also be found in the “gray pages” in the back of the book, which quite effectively trace sire lines all the way back to Eclipse.

    We do understand, however, that many people prefer print and our job is to provide information in all the ways people want to consume it, so we will be making available soon as a downloadable PDF a full set of the indexes previously published in the Stallion Register.

    It should also be noted that if some breeders/consultants choose not to use the Stallion Register as their primary research book, then they should know the statistics for 254 stallions will not be available to them because these stallions appear exclusively this year in the Stallion Register.

    Eric Mitchell
    Editorial Director, The Blood-Horse

  5. Elaine says:

    US only list will never happen and 2011 is a perfect example. Hat Trick is ranked 5th on current list but most of his earnings are for European Champion Dabirsim. Eliminate that and Hat Trick falls to 25 – 30 on list.
    That will never go over well with any farm, anywhere.

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